How to Test Your Relationship Without Moving In Together | The Art of Manliness

Over the last few decades, it’s become more and more common for couples to move in together while they’re dating. They often opt for this living arrangement because it feels convenient, and also because they want to “test” the relationship before deciding whether or not to get married. Couples figure that by experiencing what it’s like to live in close proximity and do day-to-day routines together, they can make a better decision about their compatibility and long-term prospects, in order to avoid someday getting a divorce.

While the idea makes a great deal of sense in the abstract, numerous research studies have definitively shown that living together before marriage does not reduce a couple’s chances of divorce. At all. How can that be?

There are likely a few factors at play, but a big one is that those who cohabitate often end up sliding further into their relationship, rather than deliberating deciding to make progressively deepening commitments. They just kind of slide into living together with a casual “Why not?” feeling; then slide into staying together out of a sense of comfort and complacency; and then slide into getting married, figuring, “Well, we’ve been together this long; I guess this is the next step to take.” In living together, their lives — pets, bills, friends, routines — get so intertwined that it becomes easier to stick with the arrangement — even if the relationship is less than ideal — than to break things off. They may therefore ultimately marry someone out of sheer familiarity, rather than ardent love. “Do you, Rob, take Sunk Cost Fallacy to be your lawfully wedded wife?”

It seems that whatever positive benefit comes from getting to know someone by way of living with them, it is outweighed by the danger of staying together because of inertia rather than brilliant connection.

Are there then other ways to “test” the strength of your relationship, without at the same time significantly increasing the difficulty of breaking up? To make a better-informed decision about your future with someone, while still maintaining more of your independence before you do?

Fortunately, there are. To get some ideas on this front, I talked to Dr. Scott Stanley, a professor of psychology at the University of Denver, who coined the “sliding vs. deciding” paradigm, and has spent his career researching cohabitation, relationships, and commitment.

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@firmware_pimp

I'm not sure whether the content of this "minimum standard of math" test is really that good, but it's hilarious that the test is being thrown out because it 'disproportionally affects racialized candidates'.

torontosun.com/news/local-news/teacher-candidates-win-huge-victory-over-provinces-mandatory-math-test-for-educators/wcm/712de111-2e71-46f0-aa55-11ca1b0ec9d0

It is possible that other countries suck at math? No! It's the test that is wrong!

He's a Canadian intelligence asset. This really got my attention, the text under his photo. "Richard Atimniraye Nyelade, who has his master's and bachelor's degrees from his native Cameroon and did another master's degree in Norway as well before coming to Canada in 2018, had no problems with the mathematics content questions, but didn't succeed on the pedagogy portion of the test."

His family likely works for the British in Cameroon. He's ushered along through school and college. Then placed in a few colleges in other countries, before being shipped off to Canada to be a teacher. He feeds Canadian intel on the children of households that are hostile to the diversity initiatives, so they can keep tabs on them and keep them out of gainful employment. I've interacted with enough of the demographic displacement agents to be fairly confident that they're not simply morons, but completely incapable of abstract thinking.

@Whisper I get the part about making women understand you. It’s an increasingly relevant tool with many sexually attractive age girls coming with the same software preinstalled.

I have to disagree with you on speaking their language being useless. Yes, speaking their language to imitate them is useless, but speaking their language tongue in cheek actually is a tool to show them that you know their inner workings. It has a similar effect as acknowledging their feelings in my experience. As you put it, it shows an understanding of their worldview. Also, it shows pre-selection, as mastering the art of facetiously speaking their tongue means

1. One has had conversations with many women
2. One knows the art of being cocky and funny

What I mean practically by “facetiously speaking womanese” is for example throwing in a trope women often use when they start to talk about a women-related topic. Basically fake-acting their girl best friend, then grinning and showing that you are making fun of her. A second example would be to make fun of a minor problem women often face in their daily life by imitating how a woman would complain about it (example: style, make-up or hair related problems). The method often accomplishes two out of three things:

1. Push-pull / C&F
2. Increase in perceived pre-selection
3. Passing a shit test

The shit test being passed is the friend zone test (at least I call it that). It’s when women test whether you will talk with them like a girl friend about their issues. It often happened to me in a work context, where it’s not safe to openly flirt or shit test, they then revert to more acceptable forms of testing in which category to put a male colleague. In my opinion, even if you don’t bang girls at work, it leads to better relations with women when they think you are attractive (but who am I saying this to).

Thoughts on this?

@lurkerhasarisen

This comment is pure gold from start to finish and needs to be an article.

I've said it before and I'll say it again... women are CHILDREN, but they are not STUPID CHILDREN. They are below us in their level of emotional self-control, but not (on average) in intelligence.

This means that, while they need (or at least very much want) a strong man to cling to, their evaluation of that strength is not based on stupid metrics unless they themselves, individually, are stupid.

A woman who signs out of a multi-year relationship based on one failed shit test is a retard. Most women are not retards.

Shit tests result from what I called "attraction anxiety", which is just what it sounds like... attraction multiplied by anxiety.

This means that if a woman has zero attraction for you, she will not shit test you, no matter how anxious she is about you, because anything times zero is zero. And if she has zero anxiety about you, she will not shit test you no matter how attracted she is to you, because anything times zero is zero.

The purpose of the shit test is to diminish her internal state of anxiety. This will happen whether you pass or fail. If you pass, her anxiety will diminish because she has more evidence that she is right to be attracted to you and invested in you. If you fail, her anxiety will decrease because she will be less invested in you.

When you're a young bro trying to hit on 21 year old girls, their anxiety will be super high, not only because they just met you, but because you are young and stupid, and because they are young and stupid. So anytime they are attracted to you, they will fire shit tests like a machine gun.

But, in a multi-year LTR, those shit tests start to disappear as anxiety reduces towards zero. If they don't, your women either aren't all that into you, or they have anxiety disorders.

So, if someone says "your multi-year relationship is going to be torpedoed by one failed shit test", to me that either indicates someone with zero relationship experience, or someone who is so poor at pet care that his woman is in a perpetual state of anxiety about him.

@Vermillion-Rx

As well, your perceived SMV plays a role. The higher your perceived SMV the less likely shit tests become - although you'll still get a couple.

As an example, I went out clubbing on Friday night. Went to get a drink and walked to the smoking area to find my buddies. They were stood around this table talking to a group of girls.

I just came upto the table and didn't say anything. Guy to my left is trying to talk to this blonde girl. He's gaming and she's giving him a bunch of shit tests.

We end up making eye contact and she gives me that "look" so immediately it was game over for him. She comes round to stand beside me. We exchange perhaps 2 sentences "what's your name" and I mocked her about her job. Went in for the kiss and she went feral.

I got one single shit test. Her girls went to get a drink and literally dragged her away from me. She came back to find me and I mocked her over it. She made some shit test about me being needy, which was easily deflected.

In total we exchanged perhaps 10 sentences and I got 1 single shit test before the lay. But my buddy who was speaking to her before me was being hit with shit test after shit test.

OP on Saidit.net could use your help with a simple shadow banning diagnostic

Help me test a theory on how to easily test if your comments are shadow banned on youtube

I recently heard that someone found out they were shadow banned on youtube. I figure there's a good chance I am. I've had to speak the truth at least once or twice and that gets your voice pruned in this society.

But the possibility that I'm shadow banned may explain an issue I've seen. Not being able to edit a comment. It makes sense that might fail if there is no comment to edit. And having your shadow banned comment in the database would add complexity and slow down the rendering code which is the code youtube wants to be fast. So it may make more sense to implement shadow banning by just making your comment appear on the front end client side.

So here is the test. Make a comment on youtube, wait five minutes, and then try to edit it. Report back if it worked or not. Then we can figure out if it's just broken for everyone or if about 10% of us have the issue. Then we will know an easy way to test it and we can spread the word. I'm suggesting waiting just to make the experiment consistent. To not waste time just comment on a video you want to watch, watch it, and then edit it at the end.

If you're curious to test this out, but don't have an account on Saidit.net to report the results, don't fret. Let me know your response and I'll copy/paste it to @x0x7 on saidit. If you want to remain anonymous to saidit, I'll omit your name on request. Thanks for your time gents.

@Typo-MAGAshiv

you said "in Rome" twice. That's hugely different from "in Roman-occupied Judea". The fact that you said it twice makes it obvious that you truly thought he was in Rome.

Saying I truly thought he was in Rome is an exaggeration. I have used Roman Empire previously in the same context.

I say Roman Empire to put the timelines into perspective. Jesus of Nezareth (occupied by roman militia, btw) was born right after Caesars Rule, and Augustus was born soom after Jesus resurrected

Would you say the events in Rudyard Kipling's novel "Kim" took place in Britain, or in British-occupied India?

Now that I have corrected myself, Assume I said Jesus's experience throughout the Roman Empire.

My goal in saying that is to paint a visual timeline for the reader. I am considerate in my writing.

And yes, I am well aware of what the New.Test is made up of. In fact, there are books after the New.Test that didn't make it into the Bible. Like The Gospel of Thomas.

I am not wrong for saying the New.Test centre's on Jesus. Everything is connected to Jesus in the New.T. Jesus and Virgin Mary is what separates the Old Test and New Test. It introduces the holy trinity, and God's newer and superior plan of salvation. Now gentiles are also saved. Jesus is more significant than God's chosen Prophets like Abraham, Moses and Jacob. This distinction is another major turning point of the N.T

If your goal is to be a good witness for Christ, then you are far from that goal. You come across like a Bible-thumping street preacher who hasn't actually opened and read his Bible, but just waves it around as a prop.

Seriously? Thats your take? I never claimed to be a theologian, nor an expert. I simply share what I learn and the insights I gain. I do my best to say what is true, and correct myself when miscommunicate.

I have already testified that I am completely new to the Bible. Did I not say I have read the Bible for 16 years, but see for the first time? You do not understand what I am saying to you.

The understanding I have gained in the last week of reading the Bible far surpass what I learned in the last 15 years.

It's a pity you miss all that for an insignificant typo.

How am I virtue signalling anything here? You can virtue signal about climate change, because it's a hoax and it's retarded.

Saying spreading God's word is virtue signalling is blasphamy far greater than my Rome and Roman Empire mix up.

But to conclude. You are right that my writing is full of holes and could be improved. Most of this could have been avoided had I proof read.

But had I not typed this, I would not have improved a corrected my termonology mix ups. Ya feel ?

And yes, I am attention seeking. From now, everytime you see my post, I would ask for your attention in advance. I believe I'm on to something that would benefit all. Listen or don't listen. It is up to you

@Osiris

Good post. And i agree.

However, nobody claimed that physique was an indicator of knowledge.

So let me ask you a question - why do, "citizens call for builders to speak, and when it discusses the construction of ships they call for shipwrights"? Because each of these craftsmen has demonstrated his knowledge in the construction of ships and buildings. Now, unlike an Athenian Assembly, here at TRP we lack the ability to verify credentials. We do not know if the "shipwright" who speaks to us, has actually built a ship or the "builder" has built a building. The only way to determine that is to test them. How do we test them? Well, that depends on the topic. If @mentorpheus or @jamesskepp speaks about theredpill, how do we know whether to trust their word? We ask them to demonstrate that they have "built a ship". And how do we do that? We either ask them to post the quality of the women they obtain or to post physique, both of which fall in line with the goals of the Assembly (TRP).

Now, if we are allowed to test them, so they are allowed to test us. When someone challenges you, they are testing whether you are a "shipwright" or "builder". How do we respond? Well that depends on the topic. Is it an intellectual debate, then we write a polemic. Is it a challenge to your masculinity, then you post physique - for there is no other way to confirm the truth of your word and your conviction on such a medium as the internet.

"Poast physique" is not used as an "invalidation through physicality", but as a response to the challenge, "are you a shipwright and builder and should we listen to your word?"

I remember when I first stumbled upon the red pill. I was elated. Finally I could understand the why of things instead of just knowing the how. No more having to Google answers or ask my dad for advice, no more watching "how to pick up girls!"

As the years went on, I was so focused on my own life that when I looked back to show my dad my progress, he had withered into nothing. I remember holding him in my arms and feeling his bones.

One phrase, loud and clear, ran through my mind.

he's dying.

And I was shook, my friends. It was my voice in my head that I was hearing, but at the same time it *wasn't, if that makes sense.

So instead of getting laid like a warlord, I turned all my focus unto one thing:

Saving my dad's life.

For years, I crawled through hell, wiping his ass. Watching him die. Looking at the people around me who refused to lift a finger. The lies. The abuse. The contempt. The system trying everything to have me return to the fold as a "productive member of society."

I realized early, but slowly, that its not enough for a man to pass a woman's shit test. He must also pass a man's shit test. He must pass his boss's shit test. He must be able to pass his town's shit test. He must be able to pass his country's shit tests. He must be able to pass the world's shit tests.

After all, the markings of a beta is a man who cannot say no even if he wants to, at any time, for any reason. Right?

So when the doctors told me to let my died die. I said no.

When my bosses told me to put him in a home so I could work.

When my fiancée told me to pick her over him. I said no.

When the administrators told me to take my dad home because his covered days ean out in the hospital. I said no.

It is no secrets. My dad died. He died at home, but make no mistake, he was murdered. He was murdered by this corrupt system. He was murdered by nameless and faceless politicians and businessmen setting policies and regulations. He was murdered by a system that had only one goal in mind, extracting my value to its own maximum benefit while giving me crumbs in return.

When my dad died, I had also saved his life.

I vowed to live a life that he could be proud of. I vowed to live a life as a free man. Free from tyranny. Free from slavery. Free from fear.

I bought a trailer. I live in the country. I work one day a week. I do not pay taxes. I ride a beat up old truck to the gym. Every day I wake up without an alarm and look out over the river with a cup of coffee before heading off to jiu-jitsu. Every night I sleep in my bed after a nice meal of smoked salmon.

Today, I watched as these politicians fought and cheated over the years for a presidency.

For what reason were they fighting? They were fighting over the authority to tell people like me what to do.

You know what i say?

I will keep drinking my coffee every morning

I will keep going to the gym.

I will keep living my life, care free.

I do not care who says they have power over me. Because I only want to die once.

A coward dies a thousand deaths.

I'm not going to live in fear.

Pass every tax you want, I will not pay it.

Pass every law you want, i will not follow it.

Pass every, rule, regulation, permit, license, etc that you want, i will not recognize it unless it suits my needs and my wants.

If men with guns come to me, telling me that I must pay this or do that, i will tell them one thing: No.

I have a feeling that I will not be alone.

No taxation without representation. If my government does not represent me, then I will not call it my government, nor will I pay for it.

So the endgame now is this, for all you people wondering what should we do now??? do whatever you want, live your life, and move towards a life where everything you hold dear can be carried in your own two hands. Make it so the only thing you need in your life is the person you see in the mirror.

Make it so when someone comes up and tells you to do something you don't want to do, you can tell them no.

My dad taught me a lesson: a man with good health is a man who's free.

I dont know about you guys. But I wasn't put on this earth to grease the wheels of someone's machine with my blood and sweat.

I wasn't put on this earth to get fucked by some fat old white fuck telling me my life is only worth $12 an hour.

I wasn't put on this earth to make some other child molesting piece of shit a rich man while I do an ignoble death in some nursing home.

My dad didn't go through hell, being hooked up to machines, so that his son could be some useful idiot drone to some mega corporation. My dad didn't eat through a tube in his stomach so that I could be a fat beta for some woman. My dad didn't go through years of dialysis just for me to waste my life. My dad didn't push through the hell of having his own son wipe his ass just so i could die at 76 in some nursing home, all alone.

What im trying to say is, that the people who stole this election have done us a huge favor.

They have given us the ultimate blessing

That blessing is the truth. The truth is they are not our representatives. They are our jailers. And now we can see them for what they really are and stop pretending that they are something else.